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Wednesday, January 05, 2005

Anti-American UK blogger

Many of my readers may be aware of a relatively new UK blogger, inappropriately named A Logical Voice, that I have take issue with. Obviously you do not have to take my word for it, by all means feel free to visit and express your own opinions.

He mainly posts anti-American posts with the odd "someone else is bad" one to cover his real agenda.

This recent post serves to prove the point that he will take any anti-American headline and post it without regard to validity.

The post is about a supposed protest at the Pentagon and White House. The only source for the post is an email written into the anti-war site indymedia. That email describes how protesters managed to break into the White House and Pentagon.

Well, I was unable to find a single article from any news outlet anywhere in the world about such an incident. Surely something of that magnitude would have generated a firestorm of press. His answer - "Because the mainstream media fails to report on it, it failed to happen in your tiny mind did it?

And the mainstream media reports on everything does it?"

It didn't occur to him that these supposed protesters would have planned such a breakin in advance and would most certainly have had mobile phones and cameras to record their coup. They probably would have tipped off a friendly reporter to what they were up to so as to have the press record the event. Otherwise why bother?

This post of his alone shows his true colours; he is nothing more than an anti-American bigot. The only reason I post a link to his blog is to let other Americans know what effect the biased British press, led by the BBC, is having on people here in the UK.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey...I hear CBS has an opening...maybe he is just trying to look good for an interview???

He goes and finds any negative USA sounding article he can locate on the net and posts it with his own little jabs. He really thinks he is doing something. His heart is likely in the right place, but the way he puts forth his "little stories" it makes the reader really question his motives. You hear the same rants coming from Al-Jazeerah and Al- Ahram and Michael Moore. Most can people can see right through it, but isn't this exactly the same as "The Protocals to the Elders of Zion", except he has replaced negative Jew hating lies with negative US hating lies? Just because most can see through it, doesn't mean that it has no impact. There are some (hopefully just a few) in the Arab world that suck this stuff up and believe it, then go strap on the dynamite.

Dumb Hillbilly

Voice 1 said...

You want to fight anti Americanism? Then you must really take a stand.

The rest of the world knows that Gonzales is the torture architect, those people willing to blow themselves and others up know that as well.

You want to send them a message that not all Americans believe in torture and abuse? Then contact your senator and tell them to oppose the nomination of Gonzales as Attorney General.

If Gonzales is for some reason not appointed as Attorney General, then I, along with the rest of the world will praise Americans for taking a stand against torture and abuse.

When those images came out of Abu Ghraib the right said nothing, not a word, people like Marc have helped the Bush regime with their "Bring 'em on" attitude. You really want them to "bring 'em on"? That is what fuels anti Americanism i'm sorry to tell you, it's the truth.

Fight anti Americanism, by fighting those who seek to destroy true American values. Send a message to your senator and urge them to oppose the nomination of Gonzales, that would start the process of helping to restore the faith of the world in America.

I don't want America to be the pariah state it is descending into under the Bush regime, if you don't want it to be either, you have to take a stand. Otherwise, you are a part of the problem, not I.

Marc said...

"...When those images came out of Abu Ghraib the right said nothing, not a word,.."

It's statements like these that show your ignorance. You need to get out of your cocoon and read more widely than the anti-American blogs that are on your blog roll. The right loudly condemned what happend at Abu Ghraib. But we also put it in context. Putting someone's underwear on the head of a prisoner, while wrong, does not compare with beheadings. Which by the way you never hear the left condemning, do you?

"You really want them to "bring 'em on"? That is what fuels anti Americanism i'm sorry to tell you, it's the truth."

Er, no it's not. The left and their appeasement policies aided by the biased liberal press fuels anti-Americanism. Fear and evny play a part as well. France and Germany are fading as world powers and their economies are declining. The US is the worlds only superpower now and that annoys the left. The US also enjoys one of the highest standards of living in the world, that creates envy. The British socialist system is in dire straits; I know I live here.

I could go on but you need to educate yourself.

"I don't want America to be the pariah state it is descending into under the Bush regime, if you don't want it to be either, you have to take a stand. Otherwise, you are a part of the problem, not I."

I decide where and when and on what issues to take a stand on by myself.

And no, you are part of the problem. Your blog is nothing but an echo chamber for anti-Americanism. As I've said many times all you do is grab any and all anti-American headlines and throw them in the air like handgrenades. Fortunately, they often blow you up.

I know for a fact that you do not read the articles you post about, I've proven that with this post. I'm sure you have not read anything about Gonzales other than what some leftist had to say. Try reading a little wider and you will see things are not as black and white as you would have them.

Here is a good place to start reading the complexities of the issues involved.

It could just be that by speaking out too loudly on Gonzales, you actually perpetuate the thing you detest.

Read: http://instapundit.com/archives/020262.php

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it would be wise for you to stop obsessing about someone with a different point of view to yours. Or is your war bigger than his war?

Tom said...

Abu Ghraib, Abu Ghraib, Abu Ghraib...

Saddam murders millions, the mullahs in Iran hang 16 year old girls, the terrorists indescriminately murder thousands with their bombs in both Israel and Iraq, and all the left can come up with is Abu Ghraib.

We write a few memos about torture, deny a few terrorists three squares a day at Guatanamo Bay, and the left screams murder. Meanwhile the terrorists in Iraq behead people and... silence

And in case anyone missed it, we investigate and prosecute our own. The people who committed the atrocities at Abu Ghraib are behind bars (and no, there's no evidence Rumsfeld was behind it). The right in America spoke out about the abuses loud and clear.

The anti-American left lacks a sense of moral clarity.

Steve N Allen said...

Marc, isn't this it as well...

http://www.newropeans-magazine.org/articles_inter/2005/3_050105_1.php

...and this...

http://www.unobserver.com/layout5.php?id=2061&blz=1

And that was from a quick search on Google News. I heard about this happening in the papers over hear at the time. Just because you didn't doesn't mean you should assume Voice 1 made it all up to suit his agenda.

You obviously don't have to agree with his point but to make claims about his blog being "wrong" goes beyond a fair argument. His blog has the same right to exist as yours.

It comes across more like your problem with his blog is that it's saying things that you don't want to hear so you're making out that he should stop. It seems odd from the country that proudly boasts about its 'freedom of speech' philosophy.

If someone had done a small amount of research about a pro-Bush story, that was only on a few news sites, didn't make the national level, and quickly disappeared I doubt we'd find you taking a stand against the validity of their blog, which means we can't take what you say as a logical unbiased argument; it's just partisan ire.

But well done. You sent a little bit of web traffic from your blog to his, which in effect gives the readers a chance to make up their own minds and not just be bullied into following an opinion. People making up their own minds, eh? Surely that's not anti-American, so I guess you have to support the idea.

Steve

Marc said...

Thanks for the comment Steve.

"Marc, isn't this it as well...

The two links you provide merely repeat verbatim what was on the indymedia site.

"Just because you didn't doesn't mean you should assume Voice 1 made it all up to suit his agenda."

That's one thing I try very hard not to do Steve, assume. I'm retired military and was taught long ago the old saying, it makes an ass out of u and me. I did a lot of research and could not find this incident reported anywhere else. And as I said it bothered me that in this day and age of small digital cameras and phone cameras, that there were not pictures. Not even on left wing sites.

Does that mean it didn't happen? No. But it is a good example of how this guy grabs at any and all "reports" to further his agenda.

"It comes across more like your problem with his blog is that it's saying things that you don't want to hear so you're making out that he should stop. It seems odd from the country that proudly boasts about its 'freedom of speech' philosophy."

If it does, that is due more to my poor writing skills than not wanting to hear other views. One look at his site shows I do not contest everything he says. Fair critizism is appreciated. I spent 20 years in the Navy defending my and his right to free speech. Which means he is free to say what he wants and I'm free to critize it.

As for the story being on only a few sites and disappering soon, I could see that if we weren't talking about a breakin at the White House and the Pentagon in a post 9/11 world!!

And thanks for the well done. I thought it only fair to him and my readers to provide the link and let them make up their own mind.

If it sounded like I had my ire up, it's because anti-American sentiment is so rampant here in the UK, largely due to the BBC and the Guardian. And with the advent of bloggers that sentiment is set to spread.

I'm just doing my little bit to try and counter it. All I want from the media and bloggers is a fair shake. Don't we all?

 
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